Transcript of french TVdoc 2007 1/3
Welcome to the studio of Thursday Investigation tonight we have a replay.
A report on children, children under mind control in cults.
Your child is going to become who you want him to be in his life. And this is what we call the practise of authority.
-Your child I just saw with the brown top. If he plays up, what would you do?
-Well, I go and get a small stick and let him know that he needs correction because what he just did is not correct.
-so what do you do then?
And so I discipline him. I discipline him making sure to let him know that it is fair that he gets disciplined
-with a stick? -yes, with a stick
Disciplining or correcting children hitting them with sticks… one can hardly believe this….but yes, this is happening
here in France now in 2007 and it is totally forbidden by law.
We have decided to come back to this sect because specifically in this place in the Pyrenees 10 years ago, a child aged 18 months died from lack of care and so
we decided to start this investigation on the subject of children in cults and we did not imagine finding what you will discover tonight.
A total of 80 000 children connected with the cult phenomenon. 80 000 is an official estimate based on findings,
children who often are desocialized, lack proper education and suffer abuse, all this in the name of God.
During our investigation with have met with the Jehovah Witnesses which is one of the groups most active recruiting in France. We have gone to their meetings and family reunions
but also spoke with ex-members those for whom you could say that one day the light stopped burning bright.
And the accusations those ex-members bring forth are of crimes punishable by jail sentences.
And so we have sought to have actual members of Jehovah Witnesses on record but they have declined being interviewed but they have sent us some mail,
as often happens when you start attacking cults, we have letters from members who want to change their testimonies, we have lawyers after us threatening us with legal actions if we air the investigation on TV
and actual members who deny allegations altogether but we maintain the validity of the statements which have been verified and even proven.
Tomorrow morning, as usual, our children, your children will make their way to their school and start a new year.
But for some children, a few thousands of them, it is not so and they are left behind in their parallel world.
A look at cults, children under mind control. This investigation by Stephane Haussy, produced by Story box press.
This is a small quiet village in the heart of the Bearn. 400 souls live here in Sus, in the Atlantic Pyrenees.
Today, like in every place in France school starts again and so it is for this 20 or so children of this rural school.
Other children in the village will not answer to the call today, children who do not even know their little neighbours and have never seen the school playground.
They live only 100 meters away in this manor house in this community called Tabitha’s Place which is much talked about in the region.
We don’t even know how many of them they are
-They stay at home, do their thing, have their community and we have our society.
They say hi but contact is always superficial. -To really know what is going on there…
I think it’s probably ok if you want to cut yourself off from society and get in there but the problem would be to get out of a place like this
We call it a community…but why don’t use the word cult, pure and simple, because that word obviously applies here.
What is the daily life of these children in the community? We wanted to meet them and interview them.
But cameras are clearly not welcome here.
Stop that please!
- But please answer our questions. It’s a pity we can’t ask you anything, we are not even trying to trespass or get into your private lives.
No, it is to your detriment. By objecting to answering our questions you are doing yourselves a disfavour.
- But we don’t give a hoot about that. Is that thing still filming? -Yeah
- I really want to see the back of you guys. You know what I want to do with your camera?
- No, no, this is not right, stop that, seriously…it’s not in your interest.
Impossible to find out more.
Two of our journalists are going then pretending to be hikers because Sus in situated in one of the routes that are part of the journey to St James of Compostele.
Thousands of pilgrims come through here every year. This time, we are equipped with a hidden camera.
And very quickly, on the village square, one of the members of this community approaches us.
Hi, I am Stephane -my name is Rahim, going on a walk are you?
-yes we are -are you in a hurry?
-well we are on our last leg of our walk.
-would you like to have quick drink and then keep going? – yeah why not, we could have a quick one -it’s up to you (woman journalist).
- who is offering that?
-We are a community and we live together, we are a few different families -What type of community?
-The Community in Sus, a community of believers and we live like in the times of the apostles.
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You know in life I say there are no mere coincidences.
Our Father God is calling for His people and is gathering slowly but surely one by one and wants us all together in there,
you know it has been 30 years now and you’ll never see this anywhere else in the world.
A FILM BY STEPHANE HAUSSY
So how long have you been there? -5 years, with my wife, children, family
-oh, so you are all in there -yes, all of my children, the last 2 ones were born here in the community.
-oh so you have kids born there? -yes our children are home-birthed
-oh well, wait a minute -our children are educated as Our Father would want…at home
CULTS: CHILDREN UNDER MIND CONTROL
Once inside, beyond the wall, the famous Manor house. About 30 different families from different countries live here, parents and their numerous children.
Hello -Hello, how do you do? what’s your name?
-Anav -How old are you Anav? -Five
This place is from another era with a feel like the Little house in the prairie. Well, there are a lot of people here!
Hello, how do you do! -Hi
Long dresses, big beards, here people live like back in the times of the first Christians.
And the man who approached us first outside is starting now to carefully look after us. We are given the tour of the place.
-Well, that is pretty And we get to see a well furnished building, annexes, a big acreage that we get to visit accompanied by around 10 small kids, a carpentry shop, a sheep stall,
the community says it creates revenue mainly from selling its hand-crafted goods.
In some of the families,3 generations live together. You are born here, grow here and get married here.
But this community is not a paradise. We have obtained this document from the intelligence services. It is titled
CULT MIND CONTROL OF MINORS VOLUNTARY PHYSICAL ACTS OF VIOLENCE DEATH
This paper remind us of the death of a little child 10 years ago in this community of Tabitha’s Place , death caused by lack of care and malnutrition.
This is about little Raphael, his parents were condemned to 12 years of imprisonment.
This document also points to the fact that mind control increases along with the degree of autarchy.
To gain their trust we pretend to be parents looking for guidance and this they find very interesting.
Please sit down, I am so happy you came
Without delay the members of this community try to convince us with the help of their pamphlets.
According to them a new order is coming. At the core of their dogmas, the end of the world and the purity of the children.
You know at the end there will be 144 000 male children. What does that mean? They will be young people around 20 years old. So that would be in a few more years.
They’ll be in their 20’s, they will be pure, never will lie. -Pure in what sense?
-They would have told no lie, they will be well trained in the sense that they will respect their parents.
These men would have had no sexual relations with women because they are on a special mission.
This special mission is found in the Bible “those who will reign with Jesus must first suffer with him”.
This is the destiny awaiting these 144 000 male children.
This Community in Sus is part of a network present in 9 countries. From the USA to Australia.
Their goal: to reconstitute the twelve tribes of Israel to bring about the return of Jesus on earth.
In this nebula adults and children can be moved from one community to another, from one country to another.
This was a family with no particular issues. Anne-Marie knows this community in Sus very well.
Together with her husband and their 4 children she lived there for a few years.
Today, they live on the other side of France, far from the Gospel. They are putting their whole lives together again.
Anne-Marie and Michel, a couple both craft workers, devoted Christians also. One day they meet members of the Sus Community at a fair.
They decide to pay them a visit, not knowing at all what is around the corner. You left, prepared spend 4 days at the community.
Anne-Marie, ex-member of the Twelve Tribes
- And we leave for 4 days in this community…. – and what happens?
-….and we never come back home!
-how long were you there? -5 and half years.
The whole family leave their lives at the door. The parents are seduced by the human warmth of the community.
Their children stop going to their school. Anne-Marie and Michel sell their business. It is a complete reprogramming of their spirits.
I will show you the few clothes I have kept. These were for festives occasions. Showing your bodily shape was forbidden.
We didn’t dress as we pleased. And we also had different names, we had taken on totally new characters. I was called Azarah and my husband was Netsak.
We were completly de-structurized in our personalities and we were not supposed to exist anymore..
The parents dragged their 4 children into this reclusive lifestyle. The last one, little Azarah is even born in the community.
They used to get up at 6 am, rarely ate meat, and dairy only once a week, a life dedicated to prayer starting from infancy.
To cure your children…what did you used to have? Was it different back then?
- Yes, we never went to the doctor, we never used medicines, particularly no antibiotics, no vaccines, nothing, not even homoeopathy.
- Where you afraid for the health of your children?
- Yes, well, when it came to minor illnesses you think it will go away using herbal remedies, but when it is a bit more serious, like Naomi had a purpura
she had to spend 1 month in bed with big bumps on her legs. We asked to see a doctor. But we were told it is not possible.
The children were not immunised even so that not immunising is an offence in France.
Taking your schoolbag and going to school, for years these children were deprived of doing so.
Children at all cost should not enter into contact with the outside world. They are supposed to be purer than their parents.
MICHEL: EX-MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY IN SUS
They shouldn’t have any sin, to be in the likeness of the Messiah. And from that comes the rule of separation of children from
this world which is considered to be under Satan’s rule. It is a world of debauchery, of deception and hardships and all that.
And so the children have a school within the community. – This school, in what ways was it different from a school of the Republic?
- The goal is essentially different. It is not to make individuals who’d be responsible, independent, free to go where they want…etc…citizens.
It is to form disciples who will continue on, being the next generation for the community to create this body [body of Messiah], these 12 Tribes.
After spending 5 years in this parallel school, the children fitted back into a normal school rhythm, but with great difficulties.
How is the children’s schooling going? Are they set back? – Yes one or two years, and they found it hard to adapt to school.
After two year now they are getting along better. But the first year was very very hard for them.