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		<title>More than good food part1</title>
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		<title>Trailer &#8220;More Than Good Food&#8221; &#124; Home &#124; Cracking the Cult Code</title>
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		<title>EL Survivor woman, wife of Canadian member recounts her ordeal with the 12 Tribes in Nelson</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[EL tells the story of her involvement with the Twelve Tribes into which she followed her husband from Togo to Canada. I am an African woman and I grew up in a 7th day Adventist family. I have survived my experience with the 12 tribes and I married a Canadian man in Africa in 2010....]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h4><em>EL tells the story of her involvement with the Twelve Tribes into which she followed her husband from Togo to Canada.</em></h4>
<p>I am an African woman and I grew up in a 7<sup>th</sup> day Adventist family. I have survived my experience with the 12 tribes and I married a Canadian man in Africa in 2010. My husband Shai Massot sponsored me to come to Canada and live with him. I arrived the 9<sup>th of</sup> May 2012. Upon arrival I was faced with the fact my husband was living as a member of a sect in the 12 tribes of Israel community in Nelson.</p>
<p>The community did not recognize our marriage as valid in spite of the Canadian government doing so. They did not want to recognize it as their intention from the beginning was to separate us. <a title="Isaac Dawson, leader in the Twelve Tribes" href="http://question12tribes.com/?p=1535">Isaac Dawson, the top leader</a> started influencing my husband. (Teaching him) that we blacks are slaves and that we have an evil spirit. Shai started mistreating me, physically attacking  me, pressing me against the floor and door. The following day I reported what happened that night to Isaac, only to be told by him to go and apologize to my husband for him abusing me.</p>
<p>Isaac cut me off from everything: to go to English classes, to work outside. He even prevented my husband from helping me fill the forms to get my permanent residency and my social health insurance cards and other things. My husband’s personality changed for the worse and he became what he had never been: violent, aggressive, a liar, manipulator, an accomplice…</p>
<div style="width: 310px" class="wp-caption alignright"><a href="http://question12tribes.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Screenshot-from-2015-08-22-160534.png"><img alt="" src="http://question12tribes.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Screenshot-from-2015-08-22-160534-300x201.png" width="300" height="201" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">&#8220;Isaac Dawson separated Shai and I&#8221;.</p></div>
<p>It is the group who has authority over me. I couldn’t speak English, French is my native tongue. They took full advantage of my isolation.</p>
<p>Life in this community is truly burdensome, especially for women and children.</p>
<p>My husband was loyal and totally dependent on the group. He wasn’t getting paid and so couldn’t support me. They didn’t take care of my needs nor was my husband. He also had become very neglectful&#8230;</p>
<p>This was around the month of June when I talked to my husband about my plan to find work to take care of my own needs. He strongly reacted saying if I did he would divorce me.</p>
<p>From May until August I worked at the 12 Tribes Café full-time. I felt lonely and I hardly saw my husband. Shai was working at the café. So in order to see him I chose to work at the café too, instead of working at home.</p>
<p>I found work very near at the local hotel. To appease the situation with my husband and the rest of the community I kept on working at the café before and after my job at the hotel. That lasted 3 months. Then in September it started getting dark and cold and I decided to come straight home after my hotel job. They were greatly displeased and I was told to go and see Isaac. He didn’t not want to understand my point of view and wanted me to keep working during the evening at the café.</p>
<p>Unhappy, he suggested I should start sharing my wages with the community. It seems he might have had in mind to have my wages go directly into his bank account! So I said: No, I’ m not under contract with you, I work voluntarily, I am not a beast of burden at your disposal.</p>
<p>Shai and I woke up between 5 and 5:30 am. Shai had to look after the cows very early and milk them, before going to work at the café. He shared the chores with other members. He was one of them who were giving the hardest tasks while other members were treated like princes and princesses.</p>
<div id="attachment_1544" style="width: 310px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="http://question12tribes.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/ydn-side1.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-1544 " alt="ydn-side1" src="http://question12tribes.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/ydn-side1-300x225.jpg" width="300" height="225" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">&#8220;I worked at the Cafe in Nelson&#8221;</p></div>
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<p class="size-medium wp-image-1538 ">At 6 am everyone wakes up.</p>
<p>6:30 I was ready to go to work at the café</p>
<p>7:00 the café opened its doors</p>
<p>I either would get a ride with the morning team or I would stay for the morning gathering, which started at 7 am.</p>
<p>I would work until 7:50 and then walk 1 or 2 minutes to the hotel Best Western Plus. I had a job as a cleaner.</p>
<p>I would work at the hotel for 4 to 5 hours depending of the needs, and 5 days a week. Work was seasonal; in autumn it would go down and stopped in November for the winter season.</p>
<p>Until August I worked every day at the café while the morning gathering was on.</p>
<p>After work I would go straight to the café, I felt like I had chains on.</p>
<p>I would take my lunch at the café, as it was very close to the café. I earned very little and since I worked for the community for nothing I thought it was only fair that they would feed me at least&#8230; But their food wasn’t always to my taste and I couldn’t take all my meals at the café. So back at home often I would come back hungry. But I wasn’t allowed to help myself in the kitchen and I was supposed to wait for dinner, after the evening gathering, at 8 pm.</p>
<p>On Sundays I did a bit of everything, I would take care of my own things and also contributed to household chores such as doing the dishes for example, with the other ladies. Sometimes I worked at the café. When I would take the opportunity to have a nap on Sundays, the women would criticise me. They would go as far as calling directly my husband at work to tell on me and what they considered laziness on my part&#8230;</p>
<p>I participated in all the needs of the household on a regular basis including helping with Sabbath preparations.</p>
<p>I was made to come to every gathering, morning and evening.</p>
<p>There you constantly hear derogatory comments aimed at Christianity as a religion but also more personally aimed at Christians. All Christians are part of a devilish system and none of the Christians on the earth are really saved nor have the Holy Spirit, only they the members of 12 Tribes are obedient to God really and are saved and know God and Jesus. Day after day I felt insulted by their Isaac Dawson and the other leaders and their remarks that, as a Christian, I couldn’t help but take to heart.</p>
<p>They were always on my back demanding for me to stop working on my job and to go to my church.</p>
<p>After work I would go to the café and would work and come back with the other café workers.</p>
<p align="right"><em>Rosemary Cruzado continues to tell the story of this woman who wants to be called by the pseudonym  EL Survivor Woman</em></p>
<p> <strong>Forbidden from practising her religion</strong></p>
<p>EL was raised and still is a Christian and is part of the 7th Day Adventist Church. When she arrived in Nelson she found a church she felt comfortable in and would spend 3 hours every Saturday morning. This took place between 9 am and 12 pm, at a time where back at the 12 tribe’s community it was between the morning gathering and lunch time, a time when members enjoy their “free time”. But this caused a lot of problems for EL and she was criticized for taking too much liberty and being a bad example for others. This would be because it is strictly forbidden for members to leave the premises except to go on a walk with others and their families. Also members are forbidden attending any events outside the community. The only events they might attend would be as part of a proselystising effort and having been sent/ authorized to go by leaders.</p>
<p>And so the wife of Isaac Dawson whose name is Dada ordered her to stop going to church every Saturday morning. EL told her that Shai and she already had discussed this matter and he didn’t see any problems with her doing this. Shai thought that since EL didn’t miss the Saturday morning gathering and that she was back for lunch afterwards that they took together, he had agreed to her going.</p>
<p>Isaac’s spouse insisted EL would stay with her husband on Saturday mornings. EL challenged her: “OK, try and stop me then!</p>
<p>“I couldn’t understand, says EL Survivor woman, why when someone would want to get saved they would all take off to the river, even on a Saturday, and baptize that person, why can’t they let me go for 3 hours a week to go to church?. I wanted to have a good time with other 7<sup>th</sup> day Adventists and make friends, get some fresh air, spiritually speaking and see something different than their religion with no mercy nor charity!”</p>
<p>“<strong>You need to be saved!”</strong></p>
<p>One of these Fridays, as usual, EL comes back from her double labour and not having had a chance to eat a snack gets home and goes to the kitchen hoping to eat something discretely. As she is not allowed to help herself and she is supposed to ask her husband, she asks him if he could get her a glass of milk. This is a good compromise she thinks, as a glass of milk is not a meal. She was supposed to wait, as everybody else was, until dinnertime. This was during the hour of preparation, hour before the gathering which starts at 7 pm and marks the beginning of the Sabbath for the members of the community. Nothing was being served during the gathering and dinner might be delayed and start well after 8 pm. Her husband is busy entertaining guests. Friday nights are prime occasions for the communities to have their life on display and invite people. There is celebration, a nice big dinner, live music, dancing. Everyone is wearing their festive attire. Her husband is reluctant and tells her with impatience a sentence EL has come to hear too many times:<strong> “You need to be saved”.</strong></p>
<p>Her patience wears out, she is exasperated. She is only asking for a glass of milk so her stomach doesn’t hurt and to keep going until dinner! For the love of God! What does asking for a glass of milk have to do with being saved or not! For EL it is the ultimate insult!</p>
<p><strong>With everything that happened and all the mistreatments I endured there, I was very smart. I recorded the way in which I was treated, in particular by their brain, their guru, Isaac Dawson</strong> <a title="Transcript of ultimatum meeting as recorded by EL Survivor woman" href="http://question12tribes.com/?page_id=1488"><strong>(click here to go to Transcript of recording)</strong></a></p>
<p><strong>EL Survivor Woman continues her story</strong></p>
<p>Isaac Dawson had ordered me to leave the premises. I asked him “Where do you want me to go? I am a foreigner in this country and I live with my husband, not you. Then we had the meeting when he gave me an ultimatum and demanded I’d give him an answer the day after. That is the meeting I recorded.</p>
<p>Of course I wanted to stay and live with my husband.</p>
<p>After the meeting, my husband was sent to another household for 2 days. When he came back as it had been reported I had missed gatherings he was upset with me.</p>
<p>It was the month of December and my health started to deteriorate, a result of my life in the 12 tribes. My husband had neglected me, no care. As for them they thought it was the great god who had condemned me.</p>
<p>And so I was a good example of someone who doesn’t obey their rules and others could go to hell like me!</p>
<p>My health gradually got worse. I had stomach aches.</p>
<p>Isaac and the group were trying to find a way to separate us, Chai and me. They transferred us to the café, Yellow Deli in Nelson, to the basement of the café. This had no amenities, no heating. It was freezing. Shai only spent 4 days with me in the basement and had returned to the community, telling me to return also. I became ill during the night of the 24 Th of December 2012. I called the community, no one answers. I call Isaac’s cell phone and ask him to pass me my husband. I told my husband I needed him urgently, I was ill. He hung up on me. I called back, this time another cell phone number of the community and this person didn’t answer as they knew it was me. Hours go by and my husband hasn’t called nor showed up.</p>
<p>I left in hope of getting help, no one in the street, everything is quite. I spot a police car and I get closer and ask them directions to the hospital and they show me on the map. On my way there, very weak, traumatised, frozen, I could barely walk up the hills of Nelson. It was worse in winter, it was slippery. To my surprise a black car stops at my level and someone asks if I need help. I said sure, I’d like to go to the hospital and I feel sick. I was a bit scared but when I got in the car I realized it was a policeman.</p>
<p>He helped me a lot until I was taken care of. Today I give thanks to God for him because he saved my life. I left hospital on the 25<sup>th</sup> to come back to the basement of the café. The nurse had prescribed some drugs for me. It was 10 am when I finally saw the face of my husband. He wanted to know what had happened to me. After, I handed him the prescription asking him to buy my medicines. He sees me there lying on my bed suffering and asks me to give him some money to buy them…hummmm…what negligence!…A few days later my husband tells me in front of my pastor that he gives me until the end of the month of January to vacate the room and go elsewhere. I asked him where elsewhere? To that he had no answer.</p>
<p>This is my life in Canada in my 8<sup>th</sup> month in the middle of winter. After kicking me out, a week later Chai calls to tell me Dada, Isaac’s wife is asking if I need crockery. What an insult. I don’t have anywhere to go to have a roof over my head…huugrrr….how am I going to manage all on my own and they don’t lift a finger to help me, not even my husband and they are not ashamed to ask if I need plates!</p>
<p>EL Woman Survivor concludes</p>
<p>Today I wish for the Government to regularise sects. In the 12 Tribes there is no adequate education. There is a lot of abuse. And we are in Canada where Human Rights are in place.</p>
<p>I am not an object.</p>
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		<title>The Jungian Psychology behind the Twelve Tribes Cult</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Part One An Interview I did with Darryl Verville, an excellent (and highly rated) program focusing on the Jungian psychology behind groups like the Twelve Tribes. Darryl speaks in a frank way about his personal experiences with the Twelve Tribes. It should be noted that Darryl also has extensive background with intentional communities, tribal clans...]]></description>
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<p>An Interview I did with Darryl Verville, an excellent (and highly rated) program focusing on the Jungian psychology behind groups like the Twelve Tribes.</p>
<p>Darryl speaks in a frank way about his personal experiences with the Twelve Tribes. It should be noted that Darryl also has extensive background with intentional communities, tribal clans and land stewardship groups, focusing on an indigenous cultural perspective.<br />
Present in the studio with us is Walter, a Nelson cultural figure, who adds a solidness and focus to the discussion.</p>
<p>Darryl presents his experiences with the Twelve Tribes as seen through the various concepts of Jungian Psychology such as the Shadow, Archetypal consciousness and the Collective Unconscious.</p>
<p>It is a fascinating show and Darryl examines the 12 Tribes with a wholesome dignity that truly reflects his genuine concern.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.radio4all.net/index.php/program/18960" target="_blank">http://www.radio4all.net/index.php/program/18960</a></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Source: PrinceGeorge Citizen newspaper Peter JAMES / Staff writer July 3, 2013 01:00 AM In a case Crown prosecutor Geoffrey McDonald called &#8220;comical&#8221; and defence lawyer Keith Jones termed &#8220;bizarre,&#8221; a former Prince George resident was handed a 45-day jail sentence Tuesday for possessing child pornography. Ross Haynes Sandwell, 42, pled guilty to one charge...]]></description>
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<div>Source: <a href="http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/news/local-news/man-convicted-after-bizarre-child-porn-confession-1.1039030" target="_blank">PrinceGeorge Citizen newspaper</a></div>
<div id="stcpDiv"><a href="http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/authors?author=Peter%20JAMES">Peter JAMES</a> / Staff writer<br />
July 3, 2013 01:00 AM</div>
<p>In a case Crown prosecutor Geoffrey McDonald called &#8220;comical&#8221; and defence lawyer Keith Jones termed &#8220;bizarre,&#8221; a former Prince George resident was handed a 45-day jail sentence Tuesday for possessing child pornography.</p>
<p>Ross Haynes Sandwell, 42, pled guilty to one charge in B.C. provincial court, but it was the circumstances of how police became aware of the crime that had both the Crown and defence lawyers in awe.</p>
<p>On Oct. 21, 2011, Sandwell walked into the Prince George RCMP detachment with a complaint that someone had stolen his identity to access child pornography. He presented police with what he believed was a letter from a Russian police agency regarding the possible identity theft.</p>
<p>Police began an investigation into what they thought was some sort of fraud and brought Sandwell into a room to give a statement. Over the course of that questioning, Sandwell mentioned that he had viewed child pornography himself.</p>
<p>That revelation prompted police to shift gears and begin investigating Sandwell himself. Sandwell subsequently admitted that he had recently looked at child pornography on his home computer and told police, &#8220;I&#8217;m here to face the consequences of my poor choice.&#8221;</p>
<p>A search of Sandwell&#8217;s computer turned up some images of child pornography, consistent with his statement to police. McDonald said the collection of images wasn&#8217;t extensive and didn&#8217;t depict violence.</p>
<p>&#8220;We don&#8217;t usually have offenders walk out of the cold and into a police station and confess,&#8221; McDonald told Judge John Milne as part of his joint submission with Jones. &#8220;If everyone who committed a crime came into the police station and confessed, the jobs of police officers and the Crown would be easier.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sandwell told the court he was sorry for his crime, which he said stemmed from a &#8220;depraved way of thinking.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I cannot give you excuses for my actions, there are none to give,&#8221; he said, noting his crime perpetuated harm against children who had already been victimized.</p>
<p>Jones told the court his client was now living with a religious group called The Twelve Tribes of Israel in Winnipeg and that the organization was having a positive impact on his client.</p>
<p>&#8220;The leaders of The Twelve Tribes are well aware of his record and conditions of his bail,&#8221; Jones told the court.</p>
<p>Colin Whiteside, an elder with The Twelve Tribes, told the judge that his group believed Sandwell was changing his way of life &#8220;from his thoughts to his personal habits&#8221; and that a jail sentence would &#8220;remove the one in need from the people who care enough to help him.&#8221;</p>
<p>According to the religious group&#8217;s website, there are a few thousand members of the The Twelve Tribes worldwide. The members of the group share all of the money they earn for the good of the community, dress modestly and do not watch television.</p>
<p>Jones said his client does manual labour as part of his duties with the group.</p>
<p>The case took another odd turn during the middle of McDonald&#8217;s submission when Milne said he recognized two men in the court room &#8211; one of whom was Sandwell. Milne said he shared a cab ride from the airport on Monday with Sandwell and the other man, but said it would have no bearing on his decision.</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m not swayed by a cab ride,&#8221; the judge said.</p>
<p>Both the Crown and defence recommended the minimum jail term of 45 days. In addition to his time behind bars, Sandwell will also have three years of probation during which time his access to the Internet will be limited to employment purposes and he&#8217;ll be barred with associating with people under the age of 18. He must also submit a DNA sample to a database.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Source: http://www.kazookazoo.ca/kazine/kazine9.pdf Download original PDF: kazine9 Two mountains lie forever spooning each other against the encrusted cluster of little lit houses below me. My friend Parizeau and I sit high on slabs of rock in Gyro Park, pounding back Goldschlager and smoking. I had managed to arrange an interview with a member of the Twelve...]]></description>
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<p>Two mountains lie forever spooning each other against the encrusted cluster of little lit houses below me. My <a href="http://question12tribes.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Screenshot-from-2016-11-20-16-50-51.png"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-6240" alt="screenshot-from-2016-11-20-16-50-51" src="http://question12tribes.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Screenshot-from-2016-11-20-16-50-51-300x244.png" width="300" height="244" /></a>friend Parizeau and I sit high on slabs of rock in Gyro Park, pounding back Goldschlager and smoking. I had managed to arrange an interview with a member of the</p>
<div data-canvas-width="370.85">Twelve Tribes, an obscure religious cult in Nelson, BC.</div>
<div data-canvas-width="370.83333333333337">Using a cell phone for light, we conjured questions to</div>
<div data-canvas-width="370.8166666666666">ask in the morning. Nelson is a place where “No Dog” symbols are painted on the sidewalks downtown and cars always stop, even though the many crosswalks are void of</div>
<div data-canvas-width="370.81666666666655">traffic lights. A city that has the population of a town</div>
<div data-canvas-width="370.8">and that houses The Preserved Seed restaurant. Owned</div>
<div data-canvas-width="370.8333333333332">and operated by the Twelve Tribes cult, the Preserved</div>
<div data-canvas-width="370.8499999999999">Seed is an enchanting place with kickass key lime</div>
<div data-canvas-width="370.8666666666666">squares and a Tudor-type tavern feel. In their restaurant</div>
<div data-canvas-width="131.9">I was to conduct my succinct n’ juicey interview.</div>
<div data-canvas-width="278.1333333333333">Witha post-party head full of dreams, I woke</div>
<div data-canvas-width="370.8166666666667">to the sound of screaming children and ill-tempered</div>
<div data-canvas-width="370.79999999999984">storms. It was 9:30 am and the interview was set for</div>
<div data-canvas-width="370.81666666666666">10:00. I got ready on the flash (Parizeau to boot), and</div>
<div data-canvas-width="370.86666666666656">we made it to the Preserved Seed on the nose, damp</div>
<div data-canvas-width="370.84999999999997">and drowsy. We were welcomed warmly when I asked</div>
<div data-canvas-width="370.85">for Devaq, the man I was to interview on behalf of the</div>
<div data-canvas-width="370.83333333333337">bearded men and oatmeal women. He met us promptly</div>
<div data-canvas-width="370.84999999999997">with a strong handshake and pleasant manner. We sat</div>
<div data-canvas-width="370.84999999999997">at a charming table and were served lovely carob mint</div>
<div data-canvas-width="370.8333333333333">matés. I told him that I was from a collective zine that</div>
<div data-canvas-width="370.83333333333337">was interested in alternative living, and the interview<a href="http://question12tribes.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Screenshot-from-2016-11-20-16-50-26.png"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-6241" alt="screenshot-from-2016-11-20-16-50-26" src="http://question12tribes.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Screenshot-from-2016-11-20-16-50-26-300x230.png" width="300" height="230" /></a></div>
<div data-canvas-width="84.69999999999999">commenced.</div>
<div data-canvas-width="55.54999999999999">Kazine:</div>
<div data-canvas-width="254.6166666666667">When did your tribe arrive in Nelson?</div>
<div data-canvas-width="50.916666666666664">Devaq:</div>
<div data-canvas-width="37.5">In 2000. The restaurant was established in 2001.</div>
<div data-canvas-width="59.71666666666666">Kazine:</div>
<div data-canvas-width="307.3166666666666">How many tribes are there and where are</div>
<div data-canvas-width="95.81666666666665">some located?</div>
<div data-canvas-width="50.916666666666664">Devaq:</div>
<div data-canvas-width="370.8166666666666">Fifty, with twenty-five in North America and four in Canada. The ones in Chilliwack and Courtenay have restaurants with the name The Preserved Seed</div>
<div data-canvas-width="55.54999999999999">Kazine:</div>
<div data-canvas-width="215.4333333333333">Do all groups have restaurants?</div>
<div data-canvas-width="78.7">Devaq: Most do, and those that don’t are working on getting one.</div>
<div data-canvas-width="59.71666666666666">Kazine:</div>
<div data-canvas-width="267.71666666666664">Where in the world are the other tribes?</div>
<div data-canvas-width="277.71666666666664">Devaq: Brazil, USA, Spain, England, France,Germany, Argentina, Australia and Japan.</div>
<div data-canvas-width="59.71666666666666">Kazine:</div>
<div data-canvas-width="87.03333333333332">Which country is considered the Motherland?</div>
<div data-canvas-width="50.916666666666664">Devaq:</div>
<div data-canvas-width="362.5">The movement was started by Gene and Marsha Sprigs in Chattanooga, Tennessee in 1971.</div>
<div data-canvas-width="53.683333333333344">Gene was part of the Jesus movement of the 60s. He moved to Tennessee and met his wife and they opened a restaurant called The Yellow Delhi on the University of Tennessee campus. Gene had so much love for Jesus and became inspired by him. When Gene and Marsha married, they would have friends over to discuss Jesus. They would call the discussions ‘wrap sessions’ and their friends would come from all over. Then one day when it was time for their friends to leave, their friends said, “I wish I didn’t have to leave,” and, Gene and Marsha said “You know, you don’t have to leave, you can just stay.” They did, and more friends from all over came, and then, through networks, started groups all over.</div>
<div data-canvas-width="59.71666666666666">Kazine:</div>
<div data-canvas-width="126.85000000000001">Can anybody join?</div>
<div data-canvas-width="50.916666666666664">Devaq:</div>
<div data-canvas-width="126.85">Anybody can join.</div>
<div data-canvas-width="59.71666666666666">Kazine:</div>
<div data-canvas-width="266.04999999999995">What are your guiding morals or rules?</div>
<div data-canvas-width="55.083333333333336">Devaq:</div>
<div data-canvas-width="362.4833333333333">Yahshua, (The Twelve Tribe’s name for Jesus) said “Don’t worry about what you eat and wear. Give up<a href="http://question12tribes.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Screenshot-from-2016-11-20-16-50-02.png"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-6242" alt="screenshot-from-2016-11-20-16-50-02" src="http://question12tribes.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Screenshot-from-2016-11-20-16-50-02-300x221.png" width="300" height="221" /></a> people, give up your possessions.” Most Christians are</div>
<div data-canvas-width="362.5">mainstream; they live apart from the word of Yahshua.</div>
<div data-canvas-width="362.51666666666665">Jesus wanted us to share all things in common. John (the Apostle), knowing God and loving God, wanted to live by his word and we lead by that example</div>
<div data-canvas-width="59.71666666666666">Kazine:</div>
<div data-canvas-width="235.08333333333334">Do you have gender-specific roles?</div>
<div data-canvas-width="50.916666666666664">Devaq:</div>
<div data-canvas-width="319.90000000000003">Women are the mothers, but they have other</div>
<div data-canvas-width="370.8499999999999">roles. Men are obviously stronger than women so they</div>
<div data-canvas-width="370.83333333333337">build and so on, and women take care of the children.</div>
<div data-canvas-width="370.86666666666656">But women also work at the Preserved Seed and handle</div>
<div data-canvas-width="181.45">the money. Have you noticed that women are really good with money? They handle the money made from here and the spending of it.</div>
<div data-canvas-width="370.8666666666666">Devaq then explained that the Twelve Tribes’ Council is based on Yahshua’s famous saying that</div>
<div data-canvas-width="56">begins “If you don’t hear from the least&#8230;” Devag was stressing that all voices from the community should be heard. Members are elected to council when “Grace is recognized.”</div>
<div data-canvas-width="370.8666666666667">This grace is supposedly allotted to you by God himself; your position in the Twelves Tribes is to</div>
<div data-canvas-width="92.13333333333333">reflect your God-given talent. You talent is identified by assessing your “true intelligence,” which stems from humility, truth and “what love says.” An intelligence that is of intrinsic wisdom.</div>
<div data-canvas-width="370.81666666666666">Devaq placed emphasis on their desire to “follow what was in their hearts.” Courting rituals were</div>
<div data-canvas-width="179.61666666666667">practiced through something called a waiting period. A room was offered to members of the cult that swelled for each other and they were allowed up to three months of private talks (no sex?). Sex apparently only happensafter marriage (but I bet somebody’s getting head).</div>
<div data-canvas-width="370.79999999999995">Devaq invited us to the Twelve Tribes farm on Mount Sentinel. I figured it would be a great opportunity to get in touch with a God so I joyously accepted (please</div>
<div data-canvas-width="207.83333333333331">note my sarcasm). As we were wrapping things up, I asked a couple more questions.</div>
<div data-canvas-width="59.71666666666666">Kazine:</div>
<div data-canvas-width="193.0666666666667">Some say love and hate are the same thing. What is you opinion on that?</div>
<div data-canvas-width="55.083333333333336">Devaq:</div>
<div data-canvas-width="37.96666666666667">They may be, but it’s up to you to choose what to do.</div>
<div data-canvas-width="59.71666666666666">Kazine:</div>
<div data-canvas-width="370.81666666666666">It would appear that there is limited room for real individuality in a community like yours. How does</div>
<div data-canvas-width="59.733333333333334">your community deal people who have no choice in being different like people who have physical disabilities?Devaq: We give them jobs that are suited to their condition, such as bookkeeping – jobs that require thinking.</div>
<div data-canvas-width="59.71666666666666">Kazine:</div>
<div data-canvas-width="294.8833333333333">What about people of same-sex orientation?</div>
<div data-canvas-width="324.00000000000006">Devaq’s eyes became hallow like empty graves.</div>
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<div data-canvas-width="55.083333333333336">Devaq:</div>
<div data-canvas-width="360.8666666666666">We don’t have a place for peoples with same-sex orientation. We don’t hate them, we just follow</div>
<div data-canvas-width="217.5333333333334">the word of Yahshua in literal terms. Women are the mothers and men are the fathers.</div>
<div data-canvas-width="59.71666666666666">Kazine:</div>
<div data-canvas-width="82.41666666666666">So you do not accept people of same-sex orientation?</div>
<div data-canvas-width="55.083333333333336">Devaq:</div>
<div data-canvas-width="24.533333333333328">No.</div>
<div data-canvas-width="59.71666666666666"><strong>Kazine:</strong></div>
<div data-canvas-width="69.43333333333334"><strong>What do you do when your children turn out to be gay?</strong></div>
<div data-canvas-width="50.916666666666664"><strong>Devaq:</strong></div>
<div data-canvas-width="125.9"><strong>They would have to leave</strong>.</div>
<div data-canvas-width="360.84999999999997">At that point I looked into Devaq’s heart and a saw a shallow grave. I then became haunted by a</div>
<div data-canvas-width="360.83333333333337">flood of memories.<strong> When I was fourteen I had left my strict Muslim home</strong> near Elora. I left my family</div>
<div data-canvas-width="360.85">and school in the middle of the night with nothing but the clothes on my back. Through the darkness of the country I walked all night. <strong>I made it into Guelph and went underground never to return to my family again.</strong></div>
<div data-canvas-width="360.8166666666667">I could not help but be sympathetic toward any child of the Twelve Tribes that would have to go through the same experiences. What Devaq and other clan members may not realize is that the world has a funny way of crushing and drowning the nicest of children.</div>
<div data-canvas-width="360.85">If a group of people truly “looked into their hearts” as means to relate, then why would there be the need toexile? Why would love say “ discriminate, judge and</div>
<div data-canvas-width="47.66666666666666">deny access?”. Just an other religious ruse to oppress and reject perhaps?</div>
<div data-canvas-width="47.66666666666666"></div>
<div data-canvas-width="360.81666666666655"><strong>I couldn’t help but be thoroughly disappointed</strong>. A community that was supposed to be</div>
<div data-canvas-width="92.11666666666666">based on harmony turned out to uphold the uglier sides of Christianity. Members of the regular Nelson community informed me that last year the cult pasted anti-gay propaganda postersaround town.</div>
<div data-canvas-width="360.85">Friday I’d be wining and dining with the get-along gang, gung-ho for Jesus and my pot-induced</div>
<div data-canvas-width="360.8333333333333">thought processes were making me feel anxious. I started having the same worries I would have before surrounding myself by Muslims at large family gatherings. I felt depressed and rendered powerless.</div>
<div data-canvas-width="360.85">At least I had a week to prepare my mind and manners. The week undressed with curious delight as</div>
<div data-canvas-width="356.61666666666673">I discovered that Nelson is the pot capital of the world.</div>
<div data-canvas-width="360.8499999999999">Friday finally came and it was pissing rain again. I waited for Parizeau to get back from work and before I knew it we were hitchhiking to Mount Sentinel</div>
<div data-canvas-width="268.49999999999994">Farm. We arrived to the main gate, comprised of large wooden beams and a banner screaming</div>
<div data-canvas-width="133.31666666666663">“Welcome!” in rainbow colours.</div>
<div data-canvas-width="133.31666666666663">
<div data-canvas-width="370.83333333333337">“Don’t be using no rainbow, ‘less you be payin’ a queen some respe’t,” I yelled, flailing my arms</div>
<div data-canvas-width="126.83333333333334">with a blow wave in my hair. We started taking pictures, walking slowly up to the main lodge. It was a lofty and lovely Dukavor contraption, inhabited by a welcoming and pregnant-with-Jesus sort. “Come join my family,” said a sardonic Devaq. “Imean, come sit with my wife and kids.”</div>
<div data-canvas-width="370.8166666666667">The entire gang was wearing linen Jesus braids on their heads. Before you knew it the tangential songs and dances broke out.</div>
<div data-canvas-width="370.83333333333337">Parizeau made a very specific what-the-fuck face and I had to ask her to not make eye</div>
<div data-canvas-width="255.41666666666666">contact, fearing the onset of a laughing fit. Their dances consisted of jointed hands and intense</div>
<div data-canvas-width="370.8499999999999">spinning, broken with random spin claps. Some kids looked happy, others</div>
<div data-canvas-width="228.65000000000003">discontent. Some of the men looked like ex-junkies and others look liked salt- and peppered hippie scholars.</div>
<div data-canvas-width="366.66666666666663">Then the music stopped and we all sat in a circle. I was blessed with another Parizeau what-the-</div>
<div data-canvas-width="370.81666666666655">fuck-face and I started laughing. It was confession time and they had the zest of a trekkie convention on acid. The music stopped/started between sporadic and</div>
<div data-canvas-width="14.816666666666666">personal God talks.</div>
<div data-canvas-width="333.8333333333333">“I am happy to find peace with people around me,” said</div>
<div data-canvas-width="121.30000000000004">a nervous young African-Canadian girl named Darah (small pearl of wisdom). She turned out to be an old chum of my bud buddy J-dog. Apparently the sweet pea had a really hard time fitting in at high school and had turned to this cult.</div>
<div data-canvas-width="60.48333333333334">During dinner a member of the Twelve Tribes spoke to me about their marriage ceremonies. The conjugal union is formed in a bible-inspired theatrical event with props and costumes. Brides or grooms may court to their own personal poetry and music. I was shown some wedding pics during my second helping of chevre and spinach pastry.</div>
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<div data-canvas-width="322.2833333333333">“If you have any questions, feel free,” he said. I replied by asking him about <strong>how the community</strong></div>
<div data-canvas-width="60.01666666666666"><strong>deals with mentally ill people,</strong> a question I meant to ask in my interview with Devaq. He explained to me that the cult family believed in the spirit world and if somebody heard voices, then they were believed by the cult.</div>
<div data-canvas-width="195.3333333333333"><strong>Mentally ill members were allowed access to medication and doctors.</strong></div>
<div data-canvas-width="10.65"><strong>In fact, all members had access to certain things like internet and family visits</strong>.</div>
<div data-canvas-width="105.53333333333333">“Now were going to serenade you,” Devaq yelled, while the sea of beards and make-up-less women collected on the other side of room.</div>
<div data-canvas-width="162.93333333333334">“Don’t look at me!” I said to Parizeau as the music poured fourth like the light of God’s heart.</div>
<div data-canvas-width="89.16666666666667">“You can be free, you can be free, just not with me,” they chanted collectively.</div>
<div data-canvas-width="340.4833333333333">How could I seriously not laugh at the at such</div>
<div data-canvas-width="232.04999999999993">blatantly direct lyrics? My previous suspicions of a join-the-cult dinner party were now confirmed. I felt really awkward and Parizeau and I began to laugh at the shear frankness of the cults</div>
<div data-canvas-width="82.36666666666666">“join me joy ride” antics. Their weekly sabbath finished with blow horns, chants, rapid dancing, and epiphanic titalation. A time of rest now awaited them before another extensive and highly laborious week ahead.</div>
<div data-canvas-width="360.8333333333333">Some of the confused and overwhelmed children retired to their rooms as the adults gathered</div>
<div data-canvas-width="38.416666666666664">outside. Parizeau and I followed the adults to chat about their cougar and bear experiences, and then we checked out their bevy of baby goats. The cool air fingered our hair and we were ready to leave Mount Sentinel farm.</div>
<div data-canvas-width="360.84999999999997">Later, I lay on Parizeau’s bedroom floor in a sleeping bag, my head filled with subconscious</div>
<div data-canvas-width="360.84999999999997">visions. I paused to reflect momentarily. Could I truly accept these people who would not accept me?</div>
<div data-canvas-width="360.83333333333337">I had the entire next day to reflect on my current cult happenings as I hitched across the entire province of BC. Mountains and rattlesnakes passed by outside of</div>
<div data-canvas-width="183.76666666666668">cars owned by kind strangers. I went through a place called Osoyoos which actually houses Canada’s only canyon and hot desert, and then up a highway that brought us to the “Summit.” The summit was celestial, with glacial springs pouring downstream and ice-chiseled rock formations on the peaks.</div>
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<div data-canvas-width="370.81666666666666">I arrived in Vancouver finally, elated and exhausted. With my Ipod pumping Bowie and the need</div>
<div data-canvas-width="232.64999999999998">to find closure, I began to invoke internal Q&amp;As as I walked around an ugly pocket of Van city. What impact do the Twelve Tribes have on society? What are the similarities between them and us?</div>
<div data-canvas-width="202.26666666666668">My head was a hot bed of confusion and labour.</div>
<div data-canvas-width="200.55"><strong>Do they negate certain fundamental social progress?</strong></div>
<div data-canvas-width="49.99999999999999"><strong>Yes, they are regressive to humanity. They may be nice but they have biblical roots and when Jesus is on board, expect a chance of retroactive stagnation.</strong></div>
<div data-canvas-width="370.85">The Twelve Tribes open restaurants all over the world with one joint mission: to communicate and</div>
<div data-canvas-width="37.5">recruit people under the law and word of Yahshua, a God void of facts and face that is used to separate and exclude.The mission machine just keeps morphing and extends to all world religions that endorse hate, ignorance, violence and global disharmony. Folks can fan and feed faith grapes for all I care but they should do it privately and without manipulation.</div>
<div data-canvas-width="32.39999999999999">Sexual orientation is not a choice, but they chose to subscribe to the opposition. When a gay man looks at a hot naked man he gets an erection and that has more corporeal power than your cherubs, giants and wives of salt pillars. If the Gods of the world created the world, than they created everything in it, including what’s denied by religious groups like the Twelve Tribes. Inclusion should not include exclusion and this extends to all peoples of societies. For if everyone was to be as one, every one would lose one’s self.</div>
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<div data-canvas-width="147.21666666666664">Y&amp;R &#8211; June 25, 2009</div>
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