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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2018 09:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Martin, 
I read your comments from 2016. I note that you referred to the TT teaching youths to masturbate. Are you able to explain any more about this? I would appreciate your input. I only ask because I am concerned that my ex-partner, who has recently left the TT, has been actively teaching our young son to masturbate. These concerns arose some months ago and are based on my observations (I will not describe the details, for the sake of our son).  
Regards,
Sarah]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Martin,<br />
I read your comments from 2016. I note that you referred to the TT teaching youths to masturbate. Are you able to explain any more about this? I would appreciate your input. I only ask because I am concerned that my ex-partner, who has recently left the TT, has been actively teaching our young son to masturbate. These concerns arose some months ago and are based on my observations (I will not describe the details, for the sake of our son).<br />
Regards,<br />
Sarah</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Todd</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Todd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2018 22:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Part 2. Also it&#039;s very clear after much exzaimenation of facts,  that many of Yoneq&#039;s teachings add and in some cases takes away from the word by adding his logical sounding justifications in very clear violation of Proverbs 30 verse 6, and Duetoromony 4 verse 2. There are so many examples of this I found in Yoneq&#039;s teachings, like them instructing me that&quot; God just cannot forgive someone if they say I repent because if they did people would just keep on sinning.&quot; This ofcourse runs contrary to Christ commandment in Luke 17 verse 4. Or saying women can talk at gatherings because their equal shares of grace,  despite Paul&#039;s warnings in Timothy that the women should be silent. Or not allowing husbands to rule over their wife&#039;s which I tried to do but they prevented me from doing and separated me from my ex wife against my will with no apologies, in contradiction to many commandments for the man to be the head over the wife by adding to the words from the Bible, primarily through their own man made justifications as Paul warned not to in Galatians chapter 1 verse 3 Thur 10. I&#039;m convinced all the evil one has to do is add to the word to justify usurping a commandment, much like Christianity does and it make lairs out of men as Proverbs chapter 30 verse 6 shows,  or judging incorrectly by adding to the word your own opinions, like saying all blacks are going to Hell if their not slaves or in the community, or people who retire too with no clear evidence of it being written in scriptures, but stated in Yoneq&#039;s teachings. So please be wise as the serpents as Christ commanded and find a people fully obedient to His will as I&#039;m myself,  for without full obedience to His will, one is cut off, proud and knows nothing as 1 Timothy 6 verse 3 says and Acts 3 verse 22 Thur 23 says,wether they know it or not,  this parallels what Christ warned in Mathew chapter 24 verse 24, how there will be many false prophets that will mislead people and show great signs and wonders. Pray for the Tribes as I do that this realization will help them to truly become the fulfillment of His great commission to &quot;Obey Everything He commanded&quot; in Mathew 28 verse 20, or find a people who actually do. Respectfuly Ex member Martin... Best Wishes in your quest.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part 2. Also it&#8217;s very clear after much exzaimenation of facts,  that many of Yoneq&#8217;s teachings add and in some cases takes away from the word by adding his logical sounding justifications in very clear violation of Proverbs 30 verse 6, and Duetoromony 4 verse 2. There are so many examples of this I found in Yoneq&#8217;s teachings, like them instructing me that&#8221; God just cannot forgive someone if they say I repent because if they did people would just keep on sinning.&#8221; This ofcourse runs contrary to Christ commandment in Luke 17 verse 4. Or saying women can talk at gatherings because their equal shares of grace,  despite Paul&#8217;s warnings in Timothy that the women should be silent. Or not allowing husbands to rule over their wife&#8217;s which I tried to do but they prevented me from doing and separated me from my ex wife against my will with no apologies, in contradiction to many commandments for the man to be the head over the wife by adding to the words from the Bible, primarily through their own man made justifications as Paul warned not to in Galatians chapter 1 verse 3 Thur 10. I&#8217;m convinced all the evil one has to do is add to the word to justify usurping a commandment, much like Christianity does and it make lairs out of men as Proverbs chapter 30 verse 6 shows,  or judging incorrectly by adding to the word your own opinions, like saying all blacks are going to Hell if their not slaves or in the community, or people who retire too with no clear evidence of it being written in scriptures, but stated in Yoneq&#8217;s teachings. So please be wise as the serpents as Christ commanded and find a people fully obedient to His will as I&#8217;m myself,  for without full obedience to His will, one is cut off, proud and knows nothing as 1 Timothy 6 verse 3 says and Acts 3 verse 22 Thur 23 says,wether they know it or not,  this parallels what Christ warned in Mathew chapter 24 verse 24, how there will be many false prophets that will mislead people and show great signs and wonders. Pray for the Tribes as I do that this realization will help them to truly become the fulfillment of His great commission to &#8220;Obey Everything He commanded&#8221; in Mathew 28 verse 20, or find a people who actually do. Respectfuly Ex member Martin&#8230; Best Wishes in your quest.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Garza</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steven Garza]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2017 16:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They have neither life nor love to pass on to others.  That&#039;s why they were using coercion to manipulate you to where they needed you to be.  Coercion always represents the deficiency of something.  Notice, though, that they did have an overabundance of something else that they were happy to pass on to you.  Guilt and worthlessness.  We must accept that the only things they have to put into others are the things that have been put into them.

All abusers we&#039;re once victims.  We must be the ones to stop the cycle.  I was fooled by them too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They have neither life nor love to pass on to others.  That&#8217;s why they were using coercion to manipulate you to where they needed you to be.  Coercion always represents the deficiency of something.  Notice, though, that they did have an overabundance of something else that they were happy to pass on to you.  Guilt and worthlessness.  We must accept that the only things they have to put into others are the things that have been put into them.</p>
<p>All abusers we&#8217;re once victims.  We must be the ones to stop the cycle.  I was fooled by them too.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Todd</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Todd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2016 01:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was there,I found it to be so sad that they believed in so many profound truths yet did not believe in certain commandments Christ gave, like Luke 17:4, women not being fully submissive to their husbands and wife&#039;s allowed to judge their heads ( This happened with me and my Ex wife, they separated us against my Will too.) and teaching their youths to masturbate, was not in accordance of what Galatians said which says that...all who belong to messiah have cut off their flesh along with all its desires, and women talking and teaching at their gatherings, Paul warned about this in Galatians chapter one, that says, if anyone teaches Anything contrary to what we taught you then they will be eternally accursed, for that the gospel which was taught of me IS NOT AFTER MAN, for I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ. So the question is is Yoneqs teachings of man or of Christ when they add so much to the gospel and clearly contradict apolstalic foundational teaching.For as 1Timothy chapter 6:3 Says if any man teach otherwise, and consent Not to the WHOLSOME words of Christ and to the doctrine which is,acccording to godliness, then He is Proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words. For as 2 Timothy 4:3-4, the day will come that they will not endure sound doctrine, but put up teachers according to their own desires. This correspondingly has happened not only in the Tribe communities but also in many Christian church&#039;s.But it no wonder for as Paul warned in 2 Thessalonians chapter 2, that in the last days a there will be a powerful delusion with all lieing signs and wonders, so those who do not receive the love if the truth, will believe the lie.   You shall know them by their fruits....Respectfully M.T.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was there,I found it to be so sad that they believed in so many profound truths yet did not believe in certain commandments Christ gave, like Luke 17:4, women not being fully submissive to their husbands and wife&#8217;s allowed to judge their heads ( This happened with me and my Ex wife, they separated us against my Will too.) and teaching their youths to masturbate, was not in accordance of what Galatians said which says that&#8230;all who belong to messiah have cut off their flesh along with all its desires, and women talking and teaching at their gatherings, Paul warned about this in Galatians chapter one, that says, if anyone teaches Anything contrary to what we taught you then they will be eternally accursed, for that the gospel which was taught of me IS NOT AFTER MAN, for I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ. So the question is is Yoneqs teachings of man or of Christ when they add so much to the gospel and clearly contradict apolstalic foundational teaching.For as 1Timothy chapter 6:3 Says if any man teach otherwise, and consent Not to the WHOLSOME words of Christ and to the doctrine which is,acccording to godliness, then He is Proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words. For as 2 Timothy 4:3-4, the day will come that they will not endure sound doctrine, but put up teachers according to their own desires. This correspondingly has happened not only in the Tribe communities but also in many Christian church&#8217;s.But it no wonder for as Paul warned in 2 Thessalonians chapter 2, that in the last days a there will be a powerful delusion with all lieing signs and wonders, so those who do not receive the love if the truth, will believe the lie.   You shall know them by their fruits&#8230;.Respectfully M.T.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Todd</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Todd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2016 00:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a former member I find it very sad after Reading this that Yoneq speaks of the seriousness of reasoning, because while I was there I experienced numerous reasoning they used to justify disobeying certain commandments Christ gave, like Luke 17:4 that says, If a brother sins against you seven times a day and &#039;re o nets by saying...I repent you shall forgive them, I ask why they could not forgive me when I repented but they reasoned that...&quot;We can&#039;t just forgive someone if they say I repent, otherwise sin would enter the church.&quot; So I was never forgiven after trying so hard to repent. And after having hardships with my Ex they separated us...and I eventually got a divorce as they would not let me be with her. So if they are the real thing why such wrongs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a former member I find it very sad after Reading this that Yoneq speaks of the seriousness of reasoning, because while I was there I experienced numerous reasoning they used to justify disobeying certain commandments Christ gave, like Luke 17:4 that says, If a brother sins against you seven times a day and &#8216;re o nets by saying&#8230;I repent you shall forgive them, I ask why they could not forgive me when I repented but they reasoned that&#8230;&#8221;We can&#8217;t just forgive someone if they say I repent, otherwise sin would enter the church.&#8221; So I was never forgiven after trying so hard to repent. And after having hardships with my Ex they separated us&#8230;and I eventually got a divorce as they would not let me be with her. So if they are the real thing why such wrongs.</p>
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