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	<title>Comments on: The Idyllic Restaurant Chain Owned by a Homophobic, Racist, Child-Beating Cult</title>
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		<title>By: les</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2020 05:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steven, I met yakol! I visited the communties down there a number of times to visit my friend Armen (Abad). Maybe I met you too? The last time I visited was 2017 I think. I was going to stay, possibly forever, but only lasted 2 weeks ... for a number of reasons.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven, I met yakol! I visited the communties down there a number of times to visit my friend Armen (Abad). Maybe I met you too? The last time I visited was 2017 I think. I was going to stay, possibly forever, but only lasted 2 weeks &#8230; for a number of reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: Victor</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2018 20:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I visited a Twelve Tribes community in northern Kansas around the beginning of 2016. I was coming from a different Christian community that lived together, the Fellowship of the Martyrs. I no longer live in a Christian community. Anyways, in terms of the feeling I got while I was there for two days, I felt that the Twelve Tribes was the most loving Christian community I&#039;d ever come across. Not only did they treat you with kindness and take care of each other&#039;s needs but they lived life together. Most churches and Christian communities still expect you to grow as a Christian on your own and the practice is that it&#039;s every man for himself. But, the Twelve Tribes took care of each other, worked together, ate together, prayed together, and committed themselves to the physical and spiritual growth of each person. The atmosphere I experienced during those two days was unlike anything I&#039;ve ever experienced from any other Christian group. 

As for the reason I decided not to join them, they have some very controlling practices and beliefs and they told me they wouldn&#039;t allow me to stay there if I didn&#039;t believe what they believed. While I was there, I noticed that all the men wear these headbands on their heads. I was told that required and is a sign of being a brother in that group. I also observed them eating with aluminum chopsticks rather than forks. I was told that also was required but that they&#039;d give me a fork since I was a guest. They said the chopsticks had something to do with the guy that created the group. One of the most disturbing things I heard was that they believe they, the Twelve Tribes, are the only true Christians on earth and that no other Christians existed from the time of the Early Church until the founding of the Twelve Tribes in the mid-1900&#039;s. When asked how people become Christians, they said it was only possible through a Twelve Tribes member and that a person couldn&#039;t even become a believer through a supernatural encounter with God, like Paul the apostle had. They told me they were the ones who had to bring Early Church Christianity back to life before Jesus Christ could return. Somehow, they believe they will form the chain that will bind Satan in Revelations 20. They believe Jesus is not deity and they believe that Jesus must be called Yahshua. Anyone calling him Jesus is worshipping someone else. When I asked if I could stay there without believing what they believe, they told me that wasn&#039;t possible. 

I don&#039;t know anything about the child abuse accusations or about their manipulation and brainwashing, but I wouldn&#039;t be surprised, considering the little I learned about their beliefs. These type of groups don&#039;t rely on God to lead them but on man-made structure. For that reason, they&#039;re no different from any other Christian group that&#039;s existed in the past. Any Christian group that controls people through rules and requiring everyone to believe the same thing is not of God but of man.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I visited a Twelve Tribes community in northern Kansas around the beginning of 2016. I was coming from a different Christian community that lived together, the Fellowship of the Martyrs. I no longer live in a Christian community. Anyways, in terms of the feeling I got while I was there for two days, I felt that the Twelve Tribes was the most loving Christian community I&#8217;d ever come across. Not only did they treat you with kindness and take care of each other&#8217;s needs but they lived life together. Most churches and Christian communities still expect you to grow as a Christian on your own and the practice is that it&#8217;s every man for himself. But, the Twelve Tribes took care of each other, worked together, ate together, prayed together, and committed themselves to the physical and spiritual growth of each person. The atmosphere I experienced during those two days was unlike anything I&#8217;ve ever experienced from any other Christian group. </p>
<p>As for the reason I decided not to join them, they have some very controlling practices and beliefs and they told me they wouldn&#8217;t allow me to stay there if I didn&#8217;t believe what they believed. While I was there, I noticed that all the men wear these headbands on their heads. I was told that required and is a sign of being a brother in that group. I also observed them eating with aluminum chopsticks rather than forks. I was told that also was required but that they&#8217;d give me a fork since I was a guest. They said the chopsticks had something to do with the guy that created the group. One of the most disturbing things I heard was that they believe they, the Twelve Tribes, are the only true Christians on earth and that no other Christians existed from the time of the Early Church until the founding of the Twelve Tribes in the mid-1900&#8242;s. When asked how people become Christians, they said it was only possible through a Twelve Tribes member and that a person couldn&#8217;t even become a believer through a supernatural encounter with God, like Paul the apostle had. They told me they were the ones who had to bring Early Church Christianity back to life before Jesus Christ could return. Somehow, they believe they will form the chain that will bind Satan in Revelations 20. They believe Jesus is not deity and they believe that Jesus must be called Yahshua. Anyone calling him Jesus is worshipping someone else. When I asked if I could stay there without believing what they believe, they told me that wasn&#8217;t possible. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know anything about the child abuse accusations or about their manipulation and brainwashing, but I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised, considering the little I learned about their beliefs. These type of groups don&#8217;t rely on God to lead them but on man-made structure. For that reason, they&#8217;re no different from any other Christian group that&#8217;s existed in the past. Any Christian group that controls people through rules and requiring everyone to believe the same thing is not of God but of man.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven D Garza</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2018 19:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jacob Franks is a bold faced liar.  I was a member of the Vista community and know his ways very well.  He is one of their &quot;Shepherds&quot;,  ironically enough.  They call him Yakol.  The very first interaction I had with him was a deceitful lie, which proved to be a lie the moment I cooperated with him.  Every time I wanted to talk to him about an issue, he would lie to my face to smooth things over.  When trying to talk to him about something twisted that he himself said just moments before, he would deny ever saying it.

As an ex-member, under Jacob Franks leadership, let me expose the lies that exist in the things he is quoted on in this article.

1) They do not speak openly about what they believe.  They keep you in the darkness on all things and under endless false impressions.  What they present to you is bait to lure you further in.
2)  They do not love all people.  I have never been more hated in my life, than during the 16 months I lived with them.  One guest who was leaving told me that he saw them showing love to a few people but they are very selective on who gets it and who doesn&#039;t.
3)  They are not free to express what is in their hearts.  They use handlers, like every true cult does.  Their handler tells them what they are supposed to think, feel, do and say.  If there is any resistance, the pressure is turned up.  The high stress and trauma from the pressure puts the member into self-preservation mode and the member begins to conform in ways that eases the pressure.  This is what you call Trauma Based Mind Control.  In the end, the member is only repeating what the handler has instructed.
4)  The money also goes to the leaders to enjoy regular nights out on the town while the slaves remain locked in the plantation sleep deprived, food deprived and set at odds against each other by the leaders.  Oh, and according to a local senior pastor their highest leader (Yoceph Rodriguez) in the Vista area has a huge house in Carlsbad where he enjoys the good life with his wife.

When you talk to these people they are using loaded language.  They have redefined words and meanings to phrases which causes you to be endlessly misled.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacob Franks is a bold faced liar.  I was a member of the Vista community and know his ways very well.  He is one of their &#8220;Shepherds&#8221;,  ironically enough.  They call him Yakol.  The very first interaction I had with him was a deceitful lie, which proved to be a lie the moment I cooperated with him.  Every time I wanted to talk to him about an issue, he would lie to my face to smooth things over.  When trying to talk to him about something twisted that he himself said just moments before, he would deny ever saying it.</p>
<p>As an ex-member, under Jacob Franks leadership, let me expose the lies that exist in the things he is quoted on in this article.</p>
<p>1) They do not speak openly about what they believe.  They keep you in the darkness on all things and under endless false impressions.  What they present to you is bait to lure you further in.<br />
2)  They do not love all people.  I have never been more hated in my life, than during the 16 months I lived with them.  One guest who was leaving told me that he saw them showing love to a few people but they are very selective on who gets it and who doesn&#8217;t.<br />
3)  They are not free to express what is in their hearts.  They use handlers, like every true cult does.  Their handler tells them what they are supposed to think, feel, do and say.  If there is any resistance, the pressure is turned up.  The high stress and trauma from the pressure puts the member into self-preservation mode and the member begins to conform in ways that eases the pressure.  This is what you call Trauma Based Mind Control.  In the end, the member is only repeating what the handler has instructed.<br />
4)  The money also goes to the leaders to enjoy regular nights out on the town while the slaves remain locked in the plantation sleep deprived, food deprived and set at odds against each other by the leaders.  Oh, and according to a local senior pastor their highest leader (Yoceph Rodriguez) in the Vista area has a huge house in Carlsbad where he enjoys the good life with his wife.</p>
<p>When you talk to these people they are using loaded language.  They have redefined words and meanings to phrases which causes you to be endlessly misled.</p>
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