Comments on: EL Survivor woman, wife of Canadian member recounts her ordeal with the 12 Tribes in Nelson

By: Ari

Ari — Tue, 02 Aug 2022 18:06:48 +0000

It is very clearly put, thank you for going through the difficulty of expressing this

I see that SOME of us who’ve left still have a voice, GOOD!

but also, it is our life, however broken, to get to live

yes, i have a personal 7 year story of Mr Dawson, himself specifically

once again- thanks for the site boss~~!!

Ari

ampowerz@proton.me

By: old friend of shai

old friend of shai — Thu, 16 Jun 2022 19:28:16 +0000

Finding this last night was a shock and im still trying to process some of the information. I came across this site after a neighbour gave me some tea he purchased at the Yellow Deli. He mentioned that he’d been to the Chilliwack location twice and it was good; this time he bought some tea to take home. I decided to google them as the box of tea was very inviting so I wanted to check out the menu. Upon my search, I came across a ton of information about Yellow Deli being a cult. I found this site when I was looking for local information. Upon reading I was in shock when the name Shai Massot came up. We have been wondering for years what has happened to him. It makes sense now why we couldn’t locate him and why he’s not on any social media platforms. I am so sorry to know this has happened to you, EL. I wish I knew at the time that all this was happening as so many of us in the community would’ve wanted to reach out. We know Shai. The old Shai. Not this person that has been brainwashed. The Shai we all know was very kind and thoughtful. He was truly a gentle soul and use to help so many people and was especially good with all the little ones. This was all heartbreaking to find out. I wish we could find a way to get through to him somehow. I hope El was able to find the help she needed, as difficult as this experience was as a new comer to this part of the world. We will hold El and the real Shai in the light and pray that he remembers who he is again, Sending much love, prayers and healing for all. May Shai be awakened from his deep sleep. Bless!

By: Kathleen

Kathleen — Thu, 07 Jun 2018 21:22:56 +0000

Does anyone know where this lady is now? I hope she got help and is able to support herself and is having a good life. It is hard to believe that people can be so cruel. I live less than a 100 miles from Nelson – the people seem very friendly when I visit. I have also eaten at this restaurant a few years ago.

By: joe hawkins

joe hawkins — Wed, 18 Apr 2018 15:28:45 +0000

dear kay, when you defend a cult that has all the evidence it does on this web site, 50 years of documented abuse, clearly you didn’t read or research anything here, dont spend 10 minutes, spend 20 hours, then u will hear the voices that you help to still supress and drown out. but the tide is turning, because others like this fine lady are telling the truth, they have courage. i expect kay ellison, that you are a member of the twelve tribes now, please contact me if you are, espeically if you are active twelve tribes elder. they broke up this womens marriage like they do every marriage they can to serve their psychotic purpose. ex ttc people need to ask themeselvs why they keep defending the ttc when they leave ? or as i said you are a active twelve tribes person/elder and u come on this web site to create confusion and insults , as other ex ttc members have clearly stated they used to do when they lived there. but finally , the lies are breaking apart.

By: HooyahBMUSN

HooyahBMUSN — Fri, 09 Feb 2018 02:32:47 +0000

Just gonna put this out there. I don’t care what the “circumstances “ were or if they were spending enough time together, Edward Dawson is the one who fucked up their marrige. This treatment towards women and kids in that group is fundamentally wrong. The way they treat the women in the cult is as if they’re a piece of property or something and have no mind of their own. I know it destroyed my family as it caused my mom a lot of health issues. I’m not going to get to deep into this,but I stand with El on this one. This abuse in the Twelve Tribes needs to stop.

By: Kay Ellison

Kay Ellison — Wed, 03 Jan 2018 18:31:54 +0000

I personally lived through this with EL and with no partiality would say that it is not accurate. EL was going through separation issues after changing cultures. Just moving from Africa was very hard . She tended to want to be with locals from her own country more than her husband . So the extra stress of the community was overwhelming. I do think they lacked sensitivity. But on her part she needed to be with her husband more if she wanted her marriage to work.

By: Eli

Eli — Wed, 29 Nov 2017 20:02:55 +0000

I was living in this community with my family at the same time as this woman. It is every bit as true as she says. She was given shit mostly for the reason that it was an interracial marriage which is technically forbidden in the cult. I felt terrible for her but I couldn’t do much because for one I was only a kid and two because I as well as my family were being harassed by Issac(aka Edward Dawson). Last I heard her husband Shai had remarried.

By: Steven Garza

Steven Garza — Wed, 06 Sep 2017 23:40:58 +0000

These people are filthy and unjust. We know Yoneq by his fruit.

By: Martin Todd

Martin Todd — Mon, 04 Sep 2017 21:42:36 +0000

That prior statement above is pretty funny if compared to the first church in the book of Acts 2:42-44 where it says that they had all things in common and if anyone had anything they laid it at the Apostles feet. Im a ex member so my experience was pretty sad considering the elders separated me from my wife which ended in divorce when I was sent away after trying to Repent for things, which to me contradicted Luke 17:4 That says if a brother says i repent you shall forgive them. So according to Acts 3:22-23 and 1 Timothy 6:3 all it takes to be cut off is disobedience to one commandment, like women being able to talk at the gatherings in the Tribes even though the Apostle Paul said that they should be silent, and their belief that they can separate marriages like they did to me and my wife when Ephesians 5:24-27 teachs the wifes to be submissive to their husbands. The biggest concern I had with many of their thousands of teachings is many of them add to the word which is forbidden in Proverbs 30:6 and other scriptures, exspecialy concerning the judging of others. For example in one teaching they condemn to hell everyone who retires in the last year’s of their life and it’s no where to be found in the bible, another stated if one did not decipline their child in such a way so hard as to cause Blue marks then they Hate their child, and in one they interject the word Christians as being condemned when stating the book of revelation which is dangerous considering the warning not to add or take away from the book of Revelation. So if one wise to heed the Messiah’s warning when He said, “Watch out for many will come in my name and decieve many” really rings true in these days as much if Christianity do not do His will fully either by Obeying all His commandments. Best wishes…

By: Twelvetribesexmember

Twelvetribesexmember — Sun, 23 Jul 2017 03:53:17 +0000

This woman story I find very interesting and I believe she is telling the truth about Shai abusing her. I am an ex member of the 12 tribes in Nelson and I witnessed a lot of excessive child abuse. They whip their babies and children with rods all day long for the littlest reasons. They teach that the child needs to be “disciplined on the first command.” That means they get whipped if they don’t respond the way their parent wants them to the first verbal command. Their parent “commands” them to do something, they teach that the children absolutely have no will, their only will is their parents until they are an adult. If they say no or resist in any way on the first command or direction given they get taken to either the bathroom or an upstairs room where no one can hear the whippings with the rods. I would hear them get whipped so unbelievably hard my stomach would turn, it made me absolutely sick how hard they would whip children under 5 years old. The whipping gets harder and harder as they get older, they get disciplined so much that the children are numb to it. When the babies or young children would come out of the bathroom or room they were disciplined in, i watched to see what their reaction to it was. To my surprise I would barely ever see them shed any tears, sometimes they would even be smiling. That disturbed me very much so. It is because they teach that the children need to “receive their discipline with a positive attitude” or they will get whipped until they stop crying or resisting.

The last thing I wanted to say is that I knew Shai, I lived with him and his NEW wife Levah. I was at their wedding, and I held their new baby girl too. I just want to say that I observed the way that Shai would treat Levah and I was not impressed. He is abusive and a very oppressive man towards his new wife by not treating her with real love that she deserves. She is a very nice woman and I care about her a lot but I do not care for the way Shai treats her. He treats her like she is less then him, that she is just getting in his way or something and it REALLY shows in his actions towards her. I do not believe that it was right for him to divorce EL and remarry just to mistreat another woman.

The elder men that live at the 12 Tribes who are married, they are perverted and they need to learn to keep their eyes off of other woman and only on their wives!

I also agree with EL about the 12 Tribes constantly insulting Christians. They think they are the only ones saved in the whole world. Give me a break, what a joke they claim to be. Everyone there is totally brainwashed and constantly contradicting scriptures.